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Many of you who know me know that I am a massive nerd. This ordinarily is not something that bothers me, except in the rare instances where it allows me to glimpse a future that few of my friends see. In this case, that future would be one wherein the world is torn asunder at the sub-atomic level and everyone dies. But more on that later.
I have a huge infatuation with the Large Hadron Collider. This massive, 27 Km circumference, 1.7 billion Euro Instrument is the largest, most powerful and most exquisitely sensitive piece of scientific equipment ever devised by man. It is designed to take Hadrons, large chunks of sub-atomic matter that used to belong to full atoms, spin them up to speed approaching the speed of light through a tunnel coated with magnets cooled to the coldest temperatures on earth, and smash them together in a test chamber cooled to 1.7 degrees above absolute zero in an effort to see what happens. This smashing liberates huge amounts of energy, but is fortunately so small that the energy doesn’t blow up half of switzerland. Or at least it wouldn’t if they could actually get it running.
The truly scary stuff is coming up next. The whole point of this is that the LHC is designed to help us discover something called the Higgs Boson. This is a mysterious field that some say imparts material properties to energy. (We are all made of atoms, small pieces of vibrating energy that are bound to each other. The Higgs Bosun is supposed to be the thing that turns that intangible energy into stuff.) Now I am not one to say that I know more about this than people who have been studying high-energy particle physics for all their lives, people who are arguably the smartest people in existence, but this sounds like hogwash. It reminds me of the Ether of pre-scientific-revolution Europe.
Anyway, you can learn more about the LHC here, so I won’t bore you with any more details.
Now, ordinarily I would not have a problem with this kind of scientific endeavour. On the contrary, as a staunch supporter of the manned space program, I would be a hypocrite for even suggesting that money should not be spent on scientific boondoggle. That being said, the space program is fairly innocuous in that it does not hold the possibility of KILLING EVERYONE.
Thats right, you, me, that neighbor who wont shut up his dogs at 3 in the morning… everyone.
The basic physics behind smashing two of the most basic and powerful components of the universe together as fast as we can make them go just to find out what comes out (something I equate to smashing 2 cars together in an effort to see what they are made of by what comes out) means that energies are released that were not really sure about. According to darn near every source I can find, the LHC is very capable of creating high enough energies and strong enough fields to produce small black holes as a by product of its testing.
Lets put soemthing into perspective for you:
The largest nuclear explosion ever created by man, the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba, had the mass of about 50o pounds of fusionable material and created a mushrom cloud 2 MILES in diameter. It spread nuclear ashes all the way around the world and probably killed hundreds of people through indirect contact with its fallout. It signaled the possible destruction of the human race by its very existance. A Black hole, on the other, far scarier hand, squeezes a mass of hundreds of our suns (numbers which can only be expressed as exponents) into an area about the size of New York City and has a gravitational pull so strong that not even light can escape it. This force is responsible for the gravitational energies that keep our GALAXY together and can consume the equivalent mass of our entire solar system in about 15 minutes. It burns the equivalent energy of our earths entire nuclear arsenal in picoseconds.
It would tear our planet apart at the sub-atomic level and spit us out as X-Rays so fast that we would not even have the barest inkling that something was wrong.
Basicaly this instrument, as influential as it could be, is something that could destroy not only our planet, but our entire solar system in a fairly spectacular manner. Of course, the scientists say that this is something that could never happen. They say that while there is a very high possibility of eddies in space time forming (black holes), they would be so small that they would evaporate before they had a chance to ingest any matter. Lets hope so, because if they so much as chow on a few atoms, these black holes would start consuming like Rosie O’Donald at a Las Vegas Buffet; and I, for one, would not want to be the chicken drumstick on that table.
However, I am willing to give the scientific comunity the benefit of the doubt seeing as how I am a history major and have in fact not been studying high-energy physics my whole life. That being said, I will be joining several of my friends at the bar in May when they finally (barring further setbacks) start conducting full power tests with this behemoth of an atom smasher, having a “please don’t render me into degenerate, low energy plasma” beer.
“…wherein the world is torn asunder at the sub-atomic level and everyone dies.”
It would have a tendency to ruin one’s day, but it might be interesting: your consciousness might get projected into space. Or even slip between parallel quantum universes.
That’s the one projected discovery that I’m really hoping for, along with supersymmetry and gravitons.
We’ll have to wait and see. And if we’re still alive, we’ll have to see what the SuperLHC has to say.
And those 3d photos of the LHC are techno-porn. Add a little and it makes for the perfect sci-future viewing experience!
pshht. Josh is full of it. Its just “Le Boom.”
no, hes right. Super symmetry and Gravitons are going to be the discoveries that revolutionize science. The Higgs Bosun, if it exists, could lead to humans having a better understanding of the matter/energy relationship. Can you imagine us having the power to create matter from energy (a la star trek matter replicators)?
That being said, you are also right Alexah, that it is just le boom and unfortunately the gravitational implosion of our planet overrides those discoveries.
A goal that I have had this year of 2008 is to learn more reasons to argue for the On Turning of the LHC. While I love the cosmic collision theory for particle creation and true sci-porn, the actual experiments will show a whole range of particle behavior characteristics…
I am really hoping for a wild discovery about “Higgs Bosun” particle behavior. Nanotechnology, one of my secret fetishes (Microscopic Robots Masterbate YOU), run into problems with repelling and attracting forces between those tiny little structures. Like type molecules readily adhere to each other in tubular form but won’t curve. They also can’t get joint dissimilar signed similar molecule structures together without introducing a catalyst, which changes the entire structure of the nanothingy, usually ruining the whole thing. If we find out how to Manipulate that whole Higgs Bossun… proccess?… then true nano sized switches, tubes, dongles and doodads will be easier to build, stronger and well… bend corners.
Also, I love the idea of infinitely recursive material creation. If we can collide two particles (Say… Cesium and Carbon) at incredible speeds to get a non native particle (Mm…. Nobelium) then we should be able to collide non native particles with native particles all day if we can just get the damm things to stick around. Will tomorrow’s amazing material contain miniscule amounts of some new material made from cosmic collision? During the Big Bang what near infinite amount of particles were created through collision? Maybe there was just one giant Alpha atom that over compressed birthing an infinite brood of periodic bliss.
Also, I need to stop interchanging Particle and Atom. Too lazy to go change things in my post.
IN ADDITION TOO; I expect to be very drunk if the world quits because of our meddling. Gooo Science!
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Thank GOD im not going mad! When i heard about Stephen Hawkings theory to black holes it gave me a whole new understanding of them. I may be only 14 but when i heard about this machine the whole thing frightened me. Even if it will only take 2 or 3 atoms to create this black hole, there will be billions of other particles traveling round this tube. If Black holes feed off atoms, and the machine makes them travel at the speed of light, then wont it consume all of them in a split second and expand? Even though this idea was stuck in my head i convinced myself that the creators of this machine must know what they are doing, but now i have found this website you have shown me i am not the only person who has thought up this theory of what COULD happen, and what SHOULD happen logically. I think these scientists need to be completely sure that it isn’t dangerous before launching it because i would like to see adulthood before i am turned into an x-ray.
Actually the tubes that the beams travel in are at a pressure of 10 to the-13 atm. That is “emptier” then interstellar space and it is kept that way specifically to prevent blackholes… By the way, you all can check out the actual facts at http://www.cern.ch and stop fretting
Yes, very very scary. The moment I read the name of this monster, I thought to myself, that sounds like trouble! And the more scientific journals I read, the more the LHC is mentioned, and the more scared I get.
Is there a “Do not turn the LHC on just yet.” petition?
At least we can chuckle at the fact that one of the detectors is called Alice! Now, about that beer????
I don’t really see this project as being too much of a threat to the planet at this time, since the diameter of a black hole is proportional to its mass. And, last I checked, hadrons don’t weigh enough for a few of them colliding together to create a earth-gobbling black hole. Now when they start flinging Buick-equivalent masses around at near-light speed, I’ll be first to sign whatever petition you want to get them to stop and think a little longer on the ramifications of their actions.
listen you people will never accomplish in this mission
Guys, I just financed a new car and I’d really like to get it paid down before this thing implodes our galaxy or whatever. What gives these guys the right to take such a chance. I mean if they want to play God, then let them go to a remote location in the universe to run these experiments. I mean under who’s AUTHORITY can they take such a chance? The thing is, our scientific knowledge of matter is in its infancy relative to age of the universe. I think it is stupid human arrogance to assume we know all the reactions to our actions. Our learning is a “work-in-progress”. Scientific notions haven’t always balanced out with the end results and jumping to this extreme is like giving the keys to the Lamborghini to the 16 year old and turning the other way. I wish Einstein could way in on the decision whether we should turn the key or if it is just not worth it. Maybe he did when he was alive. But I think he would have a very warm and fuzzy feeling of taking this risk especially after the nuclear bombs of WWII. Do they need to go this far?
I think that I need to explain something here guys. This post was written as a satire of the debate swirling around the LHC. I personally am all for the experiments that they will be running there. While I firmly believe that there is actually a chance that something strange, something that we did not see coming, is going to happen, the idea that smashing sub-atomic particles together is going to destroy the world is slightly ridiculous.
I personally value the debate. As we get farther and farther into our research of material and high-energy physics, it is important that we have debate. This is especially true when there is even the slightest possibility of danger to the population. Keep the comments coming, guys. I have learned so much and seen this issue from many different angles that I had previously not considered already!
I’m curious. Just who is it that has the authority to gamble all of our lives? I mean, they did it with the atomic bomb knowing that there was a reasonable chance that it would burn up our entire atmosphere. Now this….
I really don’t remember anyone asking me how I felt about possibly being sucked into a blackhole and spat out (or not) in a parallel universe.
Then again, this probably has already happened many times over and we just don’t remember it.
I think a Black Hole Party is in order. What is the exact date of the end of everything?
I agree!
Hey Jeremy,
Wondering if it would be alright to add a couple paragraphs from your blog in my email newsletter? Goes to about 250 people. I just want to make more people aware of this — Thanks for the Information. Let me know if it’s alright to include this or part of it. —Teri
This is what I want to include and I’ll include a link to your blog:
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From http://jeremyj5000.wordpress.com/2008/01/09/the-machine-that-could-kill-us-all-thanks-switzerland/
THE MACHINE THAT COULD KILL US ALL. THANKS, SWITZERLAND
The Large Hadron Collider is a massive, 27 Km circumference, 1.7 billion Euro Instrument. The largest, most powerful and most exquisitely sensitive piece of scientific equipment ever devised by man. It is designed to take Hadrons, large chunks of sub-atomic matter that used to belong to full atoms, spin them up to speed approaching the speed of light through a tunnel coated with magnets cooled to the coldest temperatures on earth, and smash them together in a test chamber cooled to 1.7 degrees above absolute zero in an effort to see what happens. This smashing liberates huge amounts of energy, but is fortunately so small that the energy doesn’t blow up half of switzerland.
The whole point of this is that the LHC is designed to help us discover something called the Higgs Boson. This is a mysterious field that some say imparts material properties to energy. (We are all made of atoms, small pieces of vibrating energy that are bound to each other. The Higgs Bosun is supposed to be the thing that turns that intangible energy into stuff.)
The LHC is very capable of creating high enough energies and strong enough fields to produce small black holes as a by product of its testing.
Of course, the scientists say that this is something that could never happen. They say that while there is a very high possibility of eddies in space time forming (black holes). Supposedly they would be so small that they would evaporate before they had a chance to ingest any matter. Lets hope so, because if they so much as chow on a few atoms, these black holes would start consuming like Rosie O’Donald at a Las Vegas Buffet.
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Hey Jeremy,
Wondering if it would be alright to add a couple paragraphs from your blog in my email newsletter? Goes to about 250 people. I just want to make more people aware of this — Thanks for the Information. Let me know if it’s alright to include part of it. I’ll include a link to your blog.
Thanks!
—Teri
Will the damn thing have to come on line for these baseless fears to stop?
The LHC will not destroy the world! The energy’s that the LHC use are modest by nature standards. The earth, Moon, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, all the planets, dwarf planets, asteroids, and commits in this soler system and all others are being bombarded on all sides with cosmic rays with higher energy’s than will be used in the LHC, cosmic rays from the stars, supernovae, gama ray bursts and the sun (theres even a hypothesis that cosmic rays play a role in lightening, that how numerous cosmic rays are). If the LHC could destroy the world, it wouldn’t be here.
But even if it produces strangelets or mini black holes it wouldn’t be a problem. Mini black holes would have the same mass as the protons that made it accept compressed to a much smaller size, so small that it could pass through the earth with out touching a single atom but it wouldn’t last that long due to Hawking radiation. And strangelets will not destroy the world simply cause there charge would repel atoms so it couldn’t touch any atoms to “convert” them and cause its unstable it would decay away.
I for one am stoked for the LHC to come on. This post is a satire of everyone that I talk to and get confronted by that think science is going to destroy the world (as it may well do, but through the LHC). Not that I don’t think that prudence is key, it is; its just that baseless fears, uninformed paranoia and lack of hard evidence should not be the thing that kills the LHC.
I’m only 9 years old but what the crap are they thinking !!!
Are some people crazy?lone wolf if your so smart then you should know murphys law. ” if anything can go wrong, it will.” or “If there’s more than one possibleoutcome of a job or task, and one of those outcomes will result in disaster or an undesirable consequence, then somebody will do it that way”. I strongly belive that these people are nuts and shouldn’t be doing this. Theres a 1% chance of killing us all and you wanna risk that? Risk killing me,you and the nieghbors next door? And for what …… to figure stuff out. Please if you still have your wits about you then put an end to this. This is crazy. The human race could be destroid.
Also lone wolf people out there cant prove hawlking radiation would be enough to decay a black hole. I dont think they were ever near a black hole to see if hawlking radiation decayed it, and if they did they would get sucked up by it. So say your prayers.
Not knowing all this because it’s all out of sight and theory, it’s too scary. Have you heard about the Geatron Model that revolutionizes Quantam Physics?
Check my website as I am developing a program to survive a nuclear attack on the US. Maybe a Nuke attack may destroy this monster before it destroys the world? I keep hearing the words of Jesus – “If the days aren’t shortened, no flesh
will be saved – but for the elect sake, I will shorten those days”. You should love my web site – you can enter inside by either of two options that later merge.
Scientists are so infantile in their analytical thinking. To figure out how things (life, the universe and everything) work they reasoned that they’d smash it to pieces. Goo goo, gaa gaa! But lets not forget, its just them Europeans, and we all know they can’t do anything that would hurt this little blue marble. For that you need Americans!
I don’t really know what this means. Infantile in the idea that in order to see what is inside something you have to take it apart? that is perfectly sound reasoning and the only way to really get to the bottom of particle physics.
Goo Goo Gaa Gaa? Seriously?
greatthat is a load of rubbish
this machine so it is.
scientists
think a load of rubbish at times
and if this is what u call science
then it is not
cause this is killing us instead
go get a checkup man
dork dork
l=ahaha
seriously can it get anywhere????
flippin suicidal maniacs… I’m not even joking, why would anyone in their right minds want to create a black hole, just goes and proves mans destructive nature and pure stupidity. yeah I can just imagine the scientists at the activation thinking how clever they are when suddenly boom black hole goes and swallowas ‘em all. but on a serious matter what idiot thought of that, maybe he/she just wated the experience of having his eyes popped and his body squeezed and streched until it split into all his/hers individual atoms.
and yes i am thinking worse case scenario, which is the best way to think when you are surrounded by hooligans
What pisses me off about this bloody machine is the total cost of it, they have wasted all that money which could have saved live all around the world,
yeah they might end up find a cure for some diseases,
but at what cost will there be anyone left to be cured .
My teen thinks great if we are all going to die i aint going to school on Wednesday.
well we will see in lest than 48 hrs
OOPSI, is NOT the final word on this I hope
mkay, 1st of all, i think tht this machine is pointless, i dont understand it or the article itself :S like evry1 else xept 4 these nerds under me, so i think this idea is stupid, its not gonna destroy the earth and if it does, see u in hell
Well, I do believe these people know what they are doing, but it’s also a really big step to be taken, and I’m a believer that if we’re meant to know how something works, then we’d already know about it, without having to take such a big chance. Because, even if it’s a small chance that something could go wrong, that chance is still there, and a chance like *this* is one that shouldn’t really be taken…. =x
but it is pretty damn interesting.
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Hawking radiation is what we base this is safe on. Hawking Radiation is a theory and there is no hard proof it exists. If Hawking Radiation turns out to be just that a theory we will all die.
Did any one read what I said? Even if hawking radiation turns out to not exist any black hole created by the LHC would be too tinny to have an effect on the world.
I know when people think black hole they think of something with allot of gravity however anything can be made into a black hole all you have to to is squeeze it down small enough. And if you could squeeze something down small enough that it becomes black hole its overall gravity would remain the same. If you crushed the earth into a black hole the moons orbit would remain the same, the earths overall gravity would remain the same the only place where the gravity would get stronger is beneath the former surface of the earth anything above the former surface would feel the same gravity as before the earth was crushed into a black hole.
Any black hoke that is created in the LHC would have the mass of 2 protons (or less) for for something with the mass of 2 protons to be black hole it has to be very, very, very tiny, so tiny that it could go through a chunk of led many times larger than the earth and not touch hit particle and it would have to hot another particle for if to absorb it and increase in mass and if it did than it would still be very, very, very tiny.
Of course none of what I said matters, particles with much higher energy than the LHC will produce are have will and are hitting the earth moon sun and all objects in the universe and the sun moon and earth are still here, they havn’t been sucked into a black hole.
These scientists live of earth, they don’t want the earth to be destroy. If there was anything in the known physics that said that the LHC would some hoe destroy the world the scientists would not have let it be built.
y would anyone want to risk this
I agree with the 9 year old, What the crap where they thinking!!
Also I think that 50 million to 1 odds are safe enough, odds are they, but even if the odds are defied, the black hole will estinguish before the media gets any news on it.
I´m not a physical, and sorry for my bad english. But i just know only one thing.
if a colision with elements soooo little can “generate” black holes, if this experiment goes good, then you must wait so THEY will try with other bigger element, for get more energy.
And they will try and try… We need only one bad chance, Human race was wrong in history thousand of times (plain earth for example and so more), i think we are wrong… again…
This particle accelerator maybe will not destroy the world, but i´m pretty sure that it will helps to find a sure way to exterminate us all in a future.
Think about it…
last humanity fail = atomic bombs = thousands of deaths.
next humanity fail = black matter?, black holes? oh my god, are we so smart to play with cosmic uncontrolable forces? so be it…
i really find that this whole thing is nonsense because i mean right now it really isent necessary to build a machine like this because one your spending nearly all of our planets money on a 13 year old project that could end life in an instint and to authorize something like this is just bogus because u should value and cherish not only your own lif but also the life of all around u and after that then what nothing because the whole human freaking race would be wiped out people should have a say in wether they wanna die or not….scientistists need 2 learn there is just a limit to where u need to stop the expirmenting and definantly dont expirment with the planet earth or its inhabbitance………
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Um, did any one read what I said? I know my spelling sucks but that does not mean you should consider what I said. I don’t expect you to believe me and you shouldn’t you should look shit up! Goddamn people, spend 10 minuts looking shit up. Look up hawlking radiation, look up micro black hole, look up what real scientists are saying. This information is not hidden, look shit up!
This whole principal of the cern project and how simple it will be to manipulate gravity as a result was explained to me over a beer at a Air Force Base in 1975 in California by a 20 year old genius who I’m sure is probably is involved in the project somehow. He was very thorough and made it sound so easy when talking about how to manipulate the earths electromagnetic field as a result of experiments derived from the supercolider. I believe good things will come out of this event that will far surpass the collective excitement and contribution made by the semiconductor. SD
UGH! What’s the point of this crap? Yes, lets risk the Earth as we know it, for something useless to every normal, average-sized brained person! Those geeks can stick their protons up their ass!
This pisses me off.
Yes if it does sucseed great! If it dosn’t we will die. The world still has alot of learning to do, unfinished learning. Why risk everyone’s life when we can learn a bit more and make this safer.
Everything I have worked for that’s uncompleted. Will be lost. I know I do not want to die.
I give up! No one is reading what I have posted and no one seems to want to look anything up. And you people can’t even seem to tell that the post is frekin’ satire.
Hey guys and girls there is nothing to worry abwt they have switched it on and were still here and if any micro blackholes wud of appeared they wud have by now so u guys need to calm down like because the scientists no what there doing they wudnt risk it if it was dangerous the odds of a Black whole was
100,000,000 to 1 and at that risk point its not even worth luking at coz they safe enuff resuluts for anything
If any1 has questions about this plz email me at hairy-potato@hotmail.co.uk
Lone Wolf: you might be wrong, because those cosmic rays move with almost the speed of light, so the black holes created by them almost instantly fly through Earth/Moon/Sun and escape their gravity field, having almost no effect on them.
But right now we are speaking about an experiment, where the black hole might have zero speed compared to Earth and might become trapped in it’s gravitation field.
“but it wouldn’t last that long due to Hawking radiation”
And just how do you know that? Hawking Radiation is a THEORY damnit. If it doesn’t exist, then there might be a chance that we will all die.
And anyway, we know too little about black holes (if they exist at all in the form we think right now. Hawking himself changed his mind about black holes in 2004, he admitted that in some questions he was wrong).
So if there is any chance other than zero that this black hole will not leave Earth’s gravity field for a time period long enough, and Hawking Radiation doesn’t exist, the black hole will start to become larger, then it might fall into the center of Earth and consume Earth.
It might happen. If there is a chance of 0.000001%, then the experiment is a fatal mistake. Even scientist said, that yes, there may be a definite chance of it, but because it is so small, we shouldn’t worry about it.
its totally stupid we arent dead r we?
I would like to thank everyone on here for commenting… Lively debate seems to be the watch-phrase for this endeavor of high-energy physics. I would like to also thank anyone who followed orders and was having a beer when they switched the machine on. I know I was.
Not to stoke the fire or anything, but please keep in mind that while they have successfully guided an electron beam around the entire circumference of the tunnel, it will take weeks, maybe even months before they have them aligned, synchronized and ramped up to full power. Only then will they really start banging the heavy stuff together and then we will know if we are to be rendered by gravitational forces not seen on our little rock.
cheers!
PS: Please see my most recent posting for a link to an update from CERN itself. No word like that from the mouth of the horse itself.
dis is great!! science can prove God’s word even more!! according 2 the bible, there will be a big hole in the ground leading to the center of the earth where all the demons that God had locked away will come out!! but, woohoo!! i wont be here!! THANK YOU SO MUCH Switzerland!!
The black hole would be too small to do anything, it’s life would end before it would have the capability of harming the earth.
“Hawking Radiation is a THEORY damnit. If it doesn’t exist, then there might be a chance that we will all die.”
The argument that “it is just a theory” has no place in science. To disprove Hawking Radiation, you would have to completely disprove all other theories that back it up including Einstein’s Theory of Special Relativity, and to disprove that you would have to completely disprove the Theory of General Relativity which is quite impossible. These types of theories cannot be disproved. Just because a theory is found to be wrong in a certain instance does not show that the theory is actually wrong, the theory becomes a special case for that instance.
Three of the eight generators failed. They’re repairing them now. So don’t worry, they know what they’re doing. We’re in no danger.
This is crazy… i dont want to die …. fuck the LHC… leave the damn world alone god created it just the way it is for a reason!!!!!!!!!!!
UMM AYE GUYS WE ARE STILL ALIVE ITS 2009!! BLACK HOLE no way !!
Ok! Seriously! LoneWolf you continue to say to read your post, you say that the Black Hole would be so small that it would not do anything. Well Nova is right when saying when we create it on earth it has no speed, and when the cosmic rays pass through they are traveling at the speed of light. Also we shouldn’t even be talking about Black Holes at all. We shouldn’t even be creating such things. Why should a group full of scientists determine our lives for us. If you convert the time man has been on earth in hours, we have been in existence for literally 20 minutes compared to dinosaurs, etc.. In 20 minutes we have figured out a way to destroy our planet and our lives. Congratulations scientists get the title for being the most intelligent, and also the most stupid. You don’t have the right to take my newborn son’s life or mine. Why is there not any governement activity in this?? Why don’t they question them more and ask the people whether we should go ahead with this or not?? Do we all not matter. OR are scientists free to do what they wish. We may survive this, however we should not be playing around with things we do not comprehend the outcomes. If we do not know what will happen to us we shouldn’t mess with it. Enough is Enough. Atomic Bombs was created by a scientist, the most ridiculous, stupid thing ever created. Now we use it for WAR to annihilate people. Too many countries have these Nukes, and at any time get in a feud, bye, bye world. Now we go and make this LHC. What a waste of money and useless machine. I agree we have way more problems on earth to be worried about trying to know our Universe. If we can resolve things on Earth and fix things here what makes you think we can start learning about the Universe and trying things there. We need to worry about our planet here and not worry about trying to find places we can escape too because we destroyed our own planet, for being so naive.
Do any of you have any actual research on the LHC to base your wild assumptions off of? If you actually care to learn how stupid those assumptions are go the LHC page on the CERN website and read the “saftey of the LHC” page and realize how DUMB you are for thinking that the LHC could hurt us. And also, anyone who wants a world government monitering science, read A Brave New World
hahaha right?
I am writing on the very issue of the danger of the supercollider: that finding how the first big bang occurred, we could make the mistake of replicating it for another big bang that would end the universe. I welcome all contacts: George Beres geosilberes@q.com (541) 344-0282
Do you really think that we could replicate the big bang with just the matter and energy on earth? And also, there was no “bang” only a bounce…
umm i really dont neo anything about this humbogumbo but from what i understood this is pretty scary stuff…. i mean i dont want a toe tag saying “cause of death black hole created by sum indiot in switzerland”